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Dave

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I watched the first episode of this new series last night on Paramount+ and found it limp and insipid. No originality, actors that mumble for which you need a translator, uninspiring effects a choppy story that made little sense (they need better script writers). We need Rick Berman and Michael Piller back in charge, Kurtzman is a liability to the Star Trek franchise and if this first episode is a prelude of what's to come then it needs consigning to the trash can.

I read the synopsis for the next two episodes and they are stories already done before in previous Star Trek series - which brings me back to 'no originality'.

I'm a massive Star Trek fan and have loved all of the series right up until Discovery and Picard appeared and they was appalling. So this was going to be my hope of salvation for the franchise, but it's hope in vain I fear. Anyone else seen this new series yet?

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Lee

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Not yet, but I was going to watch tonight. I think I might give it a miss now though! 😂

Such a shame as like you say, the franchise was once outstanding.
 
Dave

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Watched the second episode last night and it wasn't much better, the story was still lame and convoluted with a load of soft soap padding that was unnecessary to the story. There's far too much time devoted to attempt to force a better understanding of the interactions of the crew; it's more like Eastenders or Coronation Street in Space. Kurtzman and his followers have no idea what Star Trek is about and they are attempting to recreate what has already become iconic and they are failing miserably. The natural chemistry that was allowed to develop in all the other incarnations of Star Trek is being forced in this new series. There is no Sulu, no Chekov, no McCoy and Uhuru is perceived as a linguistic specialist rather than a communications officer and is someone who really isn't sure that they want to be in Starfleet - that was never the case in TOS.

Even the Enterprise looks like something cobbled together from spare parts from a junkyard. These new people at the helm are heading towards a car crash with their tinkering and fiddling with a formula that was created long before they arrived on the scene and I believe, personally, that they should be shown the door and given the boot. Their attempts to rewrite a great franchise is sacrilege.
 
Dave

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This takes place before Kirk arrives on the scene, hence the young Uhuru fresh out of SFA. Pike is Captain of the Enterprise but seems to spend more time washing dishes whilst his second in command dries them. I gave up on it as it was becoming more incoherent and irrelevent with stories that has no sense of definition to them. Ever since Kurtzman arrived on the scene the whole franchise has taken a nosedive - almost all of ST Fandom are saying the same thing, Kurtzman is a liability not an asset and the sooner he is spaced the better. Berman and Piller had a true sense of what ST is all about and their absence is mourned. Such a shame for a once brilliant franchise. I'm rewatching the older pre-Kurtzman series over and they are like a breath of fresh air by comparison.
 
zoldos

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Yeah, I don't like those. Never cared for Enterprise, either. My fav is TNG, DS9, and Voyager. In that order. :)
 
PGen98

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zoldos said:
Yeah, I don't like those. Never cared for Enterprise, either. My fav is TNG, DS9, and Voyager. In that order. :)
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I was actually a fan of Enterprise, it was a nice change of pace for the franchise, but I understand it's not for everyone. I do love TNG, DS9 and Voyager, though, amazing shows!
 
zoldos

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The only thing I liked about Enterprise was the Sulobon creatures, the temporal cold war, and the episode with Brent Spiner. hehe
 
PGen98

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zoldos said:
The only thing I liked about Enterprise was the Sulobon creatures, the temporal cold war, and the episode with Brent Spiner. hehe
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He did have quite an amusing part! Wasn't a huge fan of the Augment storyline, but Brent Spiner definitely saved it.
 
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PGen98 said:
He did have quite an amusing part! Wasn't a huge fan of the Augment storyline, but Brent Spiner definitely saved it.
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Agreed. I stopped watching it after the season 2 premiere. I was extremely disappointed with it. They had that huge temporal thing and destroyed the Earth or whatever, and needed to fix it. It could have been an exciting episode, but instead, one of the characters simply fixed it and was using tech he "learned how to make in middle school" and the whole thing was anticlimactic. :(

I later saw the Spiner multipart episode, which didn't really make sense anyway. Stupid prequels always changing the established history of the Trek universe. Very annoying. It was a cool idea/concept tho....
 
PGen98

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zoldos said:
Agreed. I stopped watching it after the season 2 premiere. I was extremely disappointed with it. They had that huge temporal thing and destroyed the Earth or whatever, and needed to fix it. It could have been an exciting episode, but instead, one of the characters simply fixed it and was using tech he "learned how to make in middle school" and the whole thing was anticlimactic. :(

I later saw the Spiner multipart episode, which didn't really make sense anyway. Stupid prequels always changing the established history of the Trek universe. Very annoying. It was a cool idea/concept tho....
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In fairness, the Xindi storyline did make it a little better, if not a bit drawn out, but then they finish that storyline and go into aliens helping Nazis? No thanks...
 
Dave

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Every episode of every star trek series had its flaws, mainly down to the script writers, sometimes to the continuity personnel and sometimes the director.

One that really stands out for me was the episode called The Changeling in the original series. Spock explains that the energy burst hitting their shields was equivalent to 20 of their photo torpedoes, yet when 'one' photon torpedo is launched against the enemy from the Enterprise and Spock states that the energy has been absorbed, Kirk replies 'what could absorb that much energy?' err, excuse me your shields just absorbed the energy of twenty such torpedoes.

Another is in DS9 where Sisko can be seen talking to someone, his communicator badge emblazoned on his chest, cut to the person he is talking to and then back to Sisko and lo and behold his communicator badge has disappeared.

Enterprise was an OK series, not the best of the bunch, but not the worst. Discovery, Picard and now Strange New Worlds are the worst I've ever seen in the franchise.

If I had to pick a favourite, and it's not an easy choice, it would be Voyager, then DS9 and the original series cannot be ignored. TNG was good, but the stories were often tame for a good many episodes.

Of the movies my favourites are First Contact, The Voyage Home, Wrath of Khan and Nemesis.

I've also just purchased the complete series of Babylon 5 which, to me, was a far superior series amongst my many Sci-Fi favourites.
 
zoldos

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My favorite show of all time is TNG (of all TV, not just Trek). I remember my excitement when I was 12 years old waiting for it to premiere after my older brother told me about it. It remains my favorite and I love watching it with my g/f. :)
 

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